Today I tested two other wallets: Stellar Desktop Client and Stargazer. I had previously tested Centaurus and Stargazer on my Android, but this time I decided to test Stargazer on the desktop and provide a few more details about this wallet. Stellar Desktop Client This wallet is available for download on Windows, Mac and Linux. It allows the user to create an account with the secret key, create a new empty account or open an existing one that was saved on the computer as a file. Very similar to Stellar Term , Stellar Desktop Client wallet also has trade markets, where the user can buy or sell Lumens in exchange for other currencies: This wallet provides the user’s balance, assets (XLM, EUR) and trust limits. It also has the options to send assets directly to other accounts, trust anchors and shows the latest payments and transactions. Some advantages about this wallet must be mentioned. First of all, not only it’s a trading client such as Stellar Term, but it also permits the user to send assets to other users, what Stellar Term doesn’t have. Second advantage is that it already gives a list of a few known anchors to create a trust line with, different than Ecliptic for example. Stellar Term has a few more popular exchange market options (with anchors), but doesn’t offer much advantage compared to Stellar Desktop Client. Lastly, I think is relevant to mention that this wallet has the option to deposit or withdraw funds. This option is not provided by other wallets that I tested so far, and it’s really interesting for users who want to send money directly to bank accounts, either for personal ones, relatives that live abroad, friends. Unfortunately it’s still limited only to Chinese yuan (CNY) asset, so it can only be withdrawn on Banks in China or using Alipay . Still, this is a great option, and I hope soon it can be transferred in more assets and to more countries. Stargazer The download process of Stargazer on the Desktop is really simple. It already opens an empty account that requires minimum of 20 XLM to activate it. However, it’s relevant to notice that it doesn’t allow the user to send money to other accounts if it just has 20 XLM on the account, because it needs to have always some amount. This is a rule for most, if not all the wallets, and it’s tricky if the user wants to delete the account and recover this Lumens, as he/she can’t send everything and leave the account empty. Stargazer has the options to create a federated name to the account, add anchors to create trust lines, export the account with a QR Code provided and set an inflation destination. The problem of the QR Code instead of the secret key to export the account is that it’s complicated to copy and transfer it. To receive assets the user also has to provide either the QR Code for scanning, the public address shown under it or the federated name. As I explained in a previous article , the federated name probably won’t be recognized as a valid destination address if the sender has an account in a wallet that doesn’t support federated names. Lastly, it has many language options, different than Stellar Desktop Client that only offers English and Chinese as languages. This is a benefit aspect considering that wallet users and potential users come from diverse countries.

ScottLathwood With Stargazer you can export the QR code of the account seed and print it out or just back up the whole app folder. I think that Stellar Desktop Client lets you choose a filename where it keeps the secret key. So you back up this file.

Stargazer doesn't clearly prompt or guide user with seed as the Stellar Desktop Client does. How do I generate this seed fr Stargazer? Stumped on this

TheresaRamdas Do you have already a seed you would like to import into Stargazer or are you looking to export the seed from one of yours Stargazer accounts?

TheresaRamdas Or do you want to create new account in stargazer and view it's seed?

It appears since Jan 1sr. Alipay no longer holds balances on your profile for future payments or transfers. ..Can you confirm this? Thamks

Can someone tell us how to backup the wallet please.

PatrickMcCarthy Depends on the wallet you are using. Most of them let you export your secret key.

Hello, I did a transaction to Poloniex and i didn't put the memo id, i used the full adress and i lost my stellar. I wrote to the exchange and they need the TX HASH. I don't find this info in the wallet, is it there or i have to accept that i loose my stellar lumens? Thanks.

AllioliLove You can go here: https://stellarchain.io/ enter your public key and see all TX HASHs for all of your transactions. I forgot to enter multiple times the memo when sending to Poloniex and always got my Lumens in the end.

Stellar Desktop Client & Stargazer

bkolobara

tmill1987 Are you trying to send Lumens to a bitcoin wallet? This is not possible. Maybe this address belongs to a bitcoin anchor (naoBtc?) and you were supposed to send their BTC token to this address. I would contact naoBtc in this case.

WillianMaxuel

Google translate: I have 20 XML and want to remove them from the wallet and close the account how do I do this?

Tenho 20 XML e quero retira las da carteira e encerrar a conta como faço isso?

bkolobara

WillianMaxuel What wallet are you using and where do you want to send the XLM?

WillianMaxuel

Google translate: I'm using the Stargazer desktop wallet. I want to send it to binance.

bkolobara Estou usando a carteira para desktop Stargazer. Pretendo enviar para a binance.

bkolobara

WillianMaxuel With the reduced minimum balance you should be able to send everything except 1 XLM. Exchanges don't support account merges and you can't send everything right now, but you should be able to send 19 XLM. Maybe Stargazer was not updated and doesn't know about the new base reserve. In this case you will need to figure out how to export your account and read out the secret key; then use https://www.stellar.org/account-viewer/#!/ to send 19 XLM to Binance.

WillianMaxuel

Google translate: If I close my Stargazer wallet account do I lose my XML or before finally closing the wallet will I be given the option to withdraw as XML?

bkolobara Se eu encerrar minha conta da carteira Stargazer eu perco minhas XML ou antes de encerrar definitivamente a carteira vão me dar a opção de retirar as XML?

Beantownsbest

bkolobara Hi , you seem like a big help to everyone . I have a question about stellar account viewer , when i first purchased some lumens from Poloniex it was one of my first tranfers , i generated a Public and private key thru the viewer i wrote down the private key and copied public key to insert to withdraw from poloniex , in the mix of all this when i went back to check if did right i am missing 2 digits to the private key somehow in copying or paste to notes. When i go to stellar expert and put public key in i see the amount i purchused and un touched , is there a ways to recover these ,

RubyScott

Have a question, I added xlm to my stellar address Stargazer wallet but the account had Testnet below not public what happen to the xlm's now ? Because it been 18 hours now and nothing in my account.

bkolobara

RubyScott If you sent founds on the test network you can't receive them on the public network. How did you "add" the Lumens to your Stargazer.

RubyScott

bkolobara I sent them through my Binance account, is it possible for me to retrieve them back?

yasould

Can anyone please help a newbie :-).
I have some XLM with Binance and i would like to transfer them to my Paper Wallet.
I downloaded the cold wallet generator (https://github.com/stellar/paper-wallet) and generated the public and private key offline , printed them. On Binance clicked on withdrawal XLM (XLM Withdrawal Address) and i ionserted the public key but it doesn´t let me put all 28 characters ( the generated 28 public key doesn´t fit in the withdrawal address in Binance.I appreciate any constructive help, thanks.

dzham

RubyScott

Yes, but it might be a bit complicated.

You have to extract your private key from the QR code you get from exporting the account.
Then delete the account you created, and create a new one, on the public network, using using your key.

RubyScott

dzham thankyou, also the account I'll be exporting will be my Binance acc?

Can you walk me through it? Because I'm lost

BlockMaster

I've noticed that Stellar Desktop Client has error messages when account is unfunded, it can only send 20 Lumens to an unfunded account, StellarTerm wouldn't let me send my MOBI to it, and the GFT is listed as ICO (project dead).

Aynss

I created an account on Stellar Desktop Client. I funded my Stellar wallet via Binance XLM withdrawal. My Binance transaction history says it has been completed, but my Stellar Wallet still displays 0 balance and I am getting a Network Error in the History tab. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

bkolobara

Beantownsbest If you are missing only 2 last letters from secret key you could try out all the combinations of letters and numbers. It would take some time but someone could write a little program for you that tries all combinations in 1 second. It would be a fun programming exercise.

Also, I think that the end of the secret key is used as a checksum (not 100% sure on this). This reduces the number of possibilities.

Just make sure your secret key starts with an S, so you know you are not missing the first 2.

bkolobara

Beantownsbest Hi,

After checking out the Stellar source code it looks like you are lucky. You can generate the last 2 letters from the rest as the last 2 only represent the checksum. It's a bit complicated, but I will try to brake it down into multiple steps:

Generate a hexadecimal representation of your secret key here: http://tomeko.net/online_tools/base32.php?lang=en
Input your key (starting with an S) without the last 2 letters into the field "Base32 string" and click convert, you will get an hexadecimal representation of the key.
Calculate the CRC16 for your hexadecimal representation of the key here: http://crccalc.com/
Copy your newly generated hex key into the input box, select Hex and press "Calc CRC-16". Now look at the "CRC-16/XMODEM" row (last) and Result column. You will have a result in the form of 0xABCD, where ABCD are some values.
Add the ABCD result to your hexadecimal representation by reversing it:
Turn ABCD into CDAB (this exact transformation) and attach it at the end of the hexadecimal representation from step 1.
Convert the hexadecimal representation back to base32 here: http://tomeko.net/online_tools/hex_to_base32.php?lang=en
Enter your hex string and press "Convert"

This should result in your full secret key! Good luck and let us know how it went. ?

Beantownsbest

bkolobara so your steps were awesome made very easy to do , BUT when i did all of this it gave me a private key but changed the last 3 letters so the last letter i had up to say was P after i did all the steps it gave a new private key but changed the P to LJO at the end i put new PK in the viewer but was a different wallet that had ZERO lumens and didnt match public Key

Beantownsbest

Thankyou thankyou so much , i will try to follow and replicate all these steps and hopefully can come up with the write private key if indeed it was the last 2 digits and not somewhere in the middle where i miss copied but i think it could be just the end because the beginning does start with S so the chances of the middle being messed would be unlikly . I will comment back soon , thanks this was as much help as i recieved in months reseaching this like i said had just gottten in to the space and am extremely interested in it as well .

bkolobara

Beantownsbest ?

I tried it with my secret key by removing the 2 last letters and it worked. Are you sure in step 2 you selected HEX and you got step 3 correct? E.g. If the result is 0x3EA1 you need to turn it into A13E before attaching to the long hex.

It's a bit tricky, it took me 4-5 tries until I got it right.

EDIT: Actually, if it lets you into the account viewer then this is the secret key with the correct checksum. It would report an incorrect key otherwise. I'm just afraid now that you saved the wrong key ?

Beantownsbest

bkolobara Yes , thats what im afraid of too, do you leave out the 0x in the A13E when u attach or add that to is what i did ?

Beantownsbest

bkolobara when i first was looking for a wallet on the page that shows all the wallets for lumens and clicked on the Ledger one that is account viewer correct it has blue buttons one says sigh in and one says generate

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