Update August 2020 : We are out of Stealth mode and the new website is live at paywith.glass paywith.glass is intelligent global financial infrastructure, built to empower billions of people to transact instantly, with currency fluidity, from anywhere on Earth, at any time. This infrastructure is designed to move value , regardless of currency used. With paywith.glass, all currencies (fiat or crypto) are treated as equal. In theory, with a fully functional live network, it will be possible to use your crypto currencies, air miles, pre-paid mobile credit or rewards points to buy anything, anywhere as easily as you can with fiat currencies. Our platform also eliminates the latency that comes with using other blockchain solutions for retail applications (eg bitcoin's dinosaur network) since regardless of the currency, crypto or fiat, all transactions are quickly, securely and reliably executed in real-time. You could receive/deposit one currency into your wallet and make payments in another, transparently. This is currency fluidity in action. A few things to clarify, this is an infrastructure solution, not an app, not a wallet. Our early public demonstrations showed potential applications of the underlying technology which at the time was still under development. There will not be a paywith.glass branded wallet, card nor app in the same way you do not find VISA or Mastercard branded cards. Like VISA and Mastercard, our logo will be a co-brand used to indicate that a product or service is compatible with the paywith.glass network. This is underlying financial infrastructure that will power existing and upcoming mobile applications, PoS platforms, hardware devices and solutions/services for global financial transactions. There will be a developer community launched in the coming months to allow fintechs and others to build on this new network but in the meantime, we are conducting pilots with banks, fintechs and other regulated financial institutions. https://paywith.glass -hatter

Our native currency is the Stellar Lumen (XLM) which we call the GlassCoin. Through blockchain technology, paywith.glass makes banking and payments seamless and extremely convenient regardless of your chosen currency or favourite banking/e-commerce service. All transaction processes are completed quickly, securely and reliably through the Stellar network which makes them so transparent, it's like you're paying with magic Glass Coins, from your own portable bank vault! Please explain how does it work!

[unknown] Thanks for the enquiry. In a nutshell, you create an account with our platform and automatically it creates a stellar account for you in the background. Unless you choose to view your advanced properties, you won't see your stellar public key and seed or memo fields etc, you will just see the user-interface which keeps things clean and simple. You can have XLM sent to your account from any other stellar wallet using the federation address and it will appear in your GlassVault (our wallet). You can also send BTC, NXT, USDT, EURT, EQD and other cryptos to the provided addresses (much like you do on exchanges) and they will appear in your GlassVault once the relevant confirmations (I'm looking at you Bitcoin) etc have been completed. The same goes for sending from your Amazon account using Amazon Pay or from your bank account using direct deposit or via your debit card. The GlassVault displays your balance in whatever currency you have chosen, whether it's USD, GBP, XLM, EUR, BTC etc and you can change the currency with a swipe which gives you real-time exchange rates without fees. From here you can send money to anyone with a GlassVault directly, or to anyone's Stellar wallet. We are working on agreements with vendors including larger retailers (the first list will be announced early next year - I was just corrected by head of Biz Dev) and once they are onboard, you can use the mobile app or just use the web browser app on your tablet, laptop or phone (so long as it has a camera or NFC) to pay at their PoS directly from your GlassVault. That swipe to change currency feature really comes in handy when you travel. If you're in the US and your balance in in USD, you won't have to worry about incurring foreign transaction fees when you go to London for example. You just swipe to change your balance to GBP and then paywith.glass and they will get GBP. The only number you need to worry about is the Exchange rate. It means that your currency transactions whether crypto or fiat are all transparent and the vendors don't have to care if the money came from your card, bank account, bitcoin wallet or air-miles for that matter. As long as it the asset can be traded and we can find satisfactory support for it, we can add it and you can buy with it, all thanks to Stellar's blockchain and market maker capabilities. -hatter

Right, it seems very cool. But it would be even cooler if I could send money to you and get BTC, USDT and USD assets backed by paywith.glass and fully movable and tradeable on the Stellar network and later cashed out from you. Is that something you plan to do or already support? It doesn't seem hard as soon as people are trusting you with their real-world assets. Also, which fees do you charge? Do you have any (beta?) users already?

[unknown] I believe they're using XLM directly, not a token, and just calling it by other name.

[unknown] @fiatjaf is correct, GlassCoin is simply a marketing reference to refer to the Lumens used as fees in the underlying technology. As an asset, Lumens appear as XLM in your GlassVault, we only use the name GlassCoin on the site to illustrate that the Lumens+Stellar blockchain with regards to the way the system works are transparent. We don't have our own token and there is no purpose for our own token in this network. Rest assured that all the standard symbols/currency codes are used for the 29 currencies we support - GBP, XLM, BTC, BCH, NXT, USD etc etc. [unknown] Right, it seems very cool. But it would be even cooler if I could send money to you and get BTC, USDT and USD assets backed by paywith.glass and fully movable and tradeable on the Stellar network and later cashed out from you. Is that something you plan to do or already support? It doesn't seem hard as soon as people are trusting you with their real-world assets. We anchor the currencies we support so yes we could issue the assets on the Stellar network and make them tradeable on the decentralized exchange. We already unofficially support EQD and EURT that are issued in that manner but we have not decided yet if we will issue assets for those which are already there or just issue new tethers for those that are not yet in the market. We will gauge market demand after it's been in production for a few months and see which route makes the most sense. Options are being discussed internally at the moment but don't worry, we'll meet you half-way ? -hatter

Just a little update... so we're almost ready for the limited public beta but it seems that someone at Google feels a bit uneasy about it. Let me qualify that statement... earlier this year I was recruited by Google to build a version of our distributed data centre technology for them. I turned them down to focus on my own startup instead. They tried again this time offering my choice of cities for re-location among other perks and again I turned them down. Then I noticed something weird, our SEO had suddenly become less effective to the extent that some of our brands when searched for on google would yield a result on page 3 or further when the first pages were filled with ads linked products that in some cases didn't even have the same name in their graph. I thought it odd but didn't make a big deal about it. Then this happened this morning: https://www.blog.google/topics/shopping-payments/pay-with-google-and-speed-through-checkout/ Remember they own the '.google' tld and paywith.google has already passed through DNS servers... so of all the things they could have chosen to call it.... As I was saying, someone at Google feels a bit uneasy about us... -hatter

hatter Hey, I think you're a bit delusional, mate ? They've announced "Pay with Google" in May on Google I/O and I don't see anything wrong with that, logical name after "Log in with Google" Whatever happens I don't think they would retaliate through ranking algorithm, it's not that easy and they don't do that for Apple and Microsoft, who are you?! Anyway, don't give up, you're building a great thing!

umbrel it wasn't branded in May at I/O and they could have called it any number of things. On the topic of ranking algorithms, we are not the first to suffer this fate at the hands of Google, I can assure you and as for why they won't do it to Apple or MS, vs the little guy... I thought that would be obvious. The little guy can't throw a $20M team of lawyers at them. -hatter

hatter it wasn't branded in May at I/O and they could have called it any number of things. They did mention "Pay with Google" name. hatter On the topic of ranking algorithms, we are not the first to suffer this fate at the hands of Google, I can assure you and as for why they won't do it to Apple or MS, vs the little guy... I thought that would be obvious. The little guy can't throw a $20M team of lawyers at them. Maybe you're right, but I usually look at this as another conspiracy theory

umbrel umbrel Maybe you're right, but I usually look at this as another conspiracy theory and this is why it continues to happen... rampant dismissal and disbelief before giving it any real though or doing the research is the same as sitting silently by and knowing for a fact that it is happening. "To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men." - Abraham Lincoln -hatter

Announcing paywith.glass - Intelligent Transaction Infrastructure

MisterTicot

@hatter

Please don't speak like this about Bitcoin network: if it is a dinausor, then it is a lively dinausor ?

(And a true jewel)

hatter

MisterTicot

I apologize if the dino comment may have offended but the reality is that bitcoin's DLT protocol is the generation 1 blockchain with all of the flaws inherent in any first generation design. SCP is like generation 5 in comparison. Please understand that I'm not trash-talking bitcoin, I have a great deal of respect for the original blockchain and I appreciate that none of what we have now would even exist without it.

Additionally, I was a miner of bitcoin back in 2011 and started my first blockchain dev on it. In fact the very first version of this project was built on bitcoin back then and shelved in late 2012 because that DLT was too slow and not scalable enough for what we wanted to achieve.

Stellar happens to meet all the minimum requirements for this type of project and has even exceed several others, so we restarted the project under the name you see now in 2016, on Stellar.

Oddly, although I have said it before, I don't recall making the dinosaur comment on this thread, so just out of curiosity where did you get that?

-hatter

MisterTicot

hatter

In your first post :

(eg bitcoin's dinosaur network)

You know, I didn't meant to sound so serious about it. I was more in a playful spirit, and really I don't think I have the right to tell people how they should talk. kume no sai ^^""".

Anyway it's interesting to know a bit more about the roots of your project, thank you ?

hatter

MisterTicot In your first post :

(eg bitcoin's dinosaur network)

Ah yes, there it is. For some reason I missed it on the page. Feels like ages since I wrote that.... during the Neolithic age I believe ?

No worries at all. We will be announcing more soon, stay tuned ?

-hatter

hatter

Just a little update for everyone, pre-registration is live on https://paywith.glass

Over the next few weeks we will be integrating a live beta demo into the desktop-browser version of the page, giving a fully functional HTML5 version of the mobile app for you to play with.

Pre-register now to stay informed.

-hatter ?

hatter

A new update on our progress for you all, paywith.glass has just been selected for the Startupbootcamp Amsterdam Commerce Class of 2019. Congratulations to our product team and development team.

https://twitter.com/sbcCommerce/status/1090645904024059905

Pre-register now to stay informed.

-hatter ?

hatter

Hi all, just to update you... we are still alive. We have had little press coverage recently from the SDF about the SBC programme:
https://mailchi.mp/stellar/stellar-roundup-march-2019

To update those still following, we've just completed week 3 and it has been intense but very productive.
Stay tuned, more to come.

-hatter 🎩

CryptoPlanet

hatter hi, that's great news! What is a plan for the near future?

hatter

@CryptoPlanet

So we have pivoted a bit away from the B2C approach to the B2B approach to gain a bit of traction first under the wings of a few much larger institutions who want to test the platform with us through the accelerator.

We are pushing the development of our API tools and some example applications out via the Odyssey Hackathon in Groningen from next week.

and we will push on to refine the proposition and to gain pilots and partnerships to push this to the world.

-hatter 🎩

CryptoPlanet

hatter How did it go with the Hackathon?

hatter

CryptoPlanet

We didn't win our category but we have managed to create our Public API and are in talks with a few banks in the Netherlands about running pilots of the platform this summer.

We were recruited by one Incubator after the event and have received an expression of interest from Yes! Delft so we are following up on these. We are also in discussions with one of the other startups from our track in the hackathon about integrating support for their hardware wallet into our platform through the new API so that is quite exciting.

Additionally, we have been accepted into the Money20/20 Startup Academy so will be attending the event in June.
We also pitch at the Holland Fintech Meetup here in Amsterdam on Friday so I will update on how that goes.

-hatter 🎩

CryptoPlanet

hatter Sounds like a great plan!

bitcoingold1234

I've sent the request for getting invitation, but still got no answer. Is it okay?

hatter

bitcoingold1234 Have a look at your Spam/Junk/Bulk mail folders just in case. From our end, everything is working just fine afaik.

-hatter 🎩

hatter

We have pitched at the Holland Fintech event as previously mentioned and we have won the People's Choice award for best pitch. So I would say it's safe to assume, the fintech scene of The Netherlands is now aware of paywith.glass and apparently likes what it sees.

Up next, our Startupbootcamp Demo Day and then the Money20/20 Startup Academy.

-hatter 🎩

CryptoPlanet

hatter Awesome! I wish you expand your business all over Europe
I think Money20/20 might be a very promosing event in terms of meeting potential clients

hatter

CryptoPlanet Thanks.

That is our plan. We start in Netherlands and expand from there. We are also talking to banks in other countries but will announce that later when those conversations get a bit closer to completion.
In the meantime, this is the official Holland Fintech post-event post.

-hatter 🎩

hatter

So we have had our Startupbootcamp Demo Day which was quite a success.
You can view the full video here.

-hatter 🎩

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