bkolobara Thank you so much
Stellar Community Fund Round 4
bkolobara Sorry if was confused. Im in Pacif Time so I was aware of posting our project before the day ends (23th March) as the original Rules were posted. I missed the post from @tyvdh were explain was UTC time.
In my defense that anouncement was posted the same deadline date so I missed.
Thank you so much for the opportunity and we hope we can contribute to the Stellar community with our project.
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The submission phase of SCF 4 has officially closed! It’s amazing to see so many fantastic, ambitious and detailed entries this round. Onward to the discussion round! Use this time to ask and answer the hard questions, to lend a hand in suggesting improvements. Above all though encourage each other and celebrate your accomplishments and achievements this far, you are all amazing creators, inventors and innovators. Big claps!!
Now for some less happy news. I think we can all agree that the SCF has often felt a little like the wild west and while it’s been amazing to grow, ideate and iterate there comes a time where you have to abide by new rules and stick to your guns. There’s a new sheriff in town and as a former competitor myself I know how disheartening it can be when the playing field doesn’t feel level. To that end we have chosen to disqualify from this round the following projects.
MSI mobsen Music Spectrum App
Didn’t follow submission guidelines, unclear how Stellar has been implemented.
Granny Molly
No live element or track record of success. Run a pilot or construct some curriculum first. For pre work funds like this to be permitted some history of success, accomplishments and accountability will need to be proven first.
EduNode - Meet, learn and build on Stellar
No live element. For pre work funds like this to be permitted some history of success, accomplishments and accountability will need to be proven first.
FIDO An easy way to use Stellar Smart Contracts and fight fraud
No live element.
XLMANCHOR: Becoming an Anchor just got easier
Not enough of a live element. For technical projects the SCF should be viewed as a grant for completed work not for promised work, particularly if you’ve abandoned previous SCF entries.
paywith.glass - Transaction Infrastructure as a Service [TIaaS]
Not enough of a live element and no significant improvements made since the November 2017 SBC entry. For technical projects the SCF should be viewed as a grant for completed work not for promised work.
StarVault - Unplugged vault for Stellar
No live element. Important technical details aren’t outlined. For technical projects the SCF should be viewed as a grant for completed work not for promised work, particularly if you’ve abandoned previous SCF entries.
This is not an opportunity to gloat or bash on the developers or their projects, my hope is that they will each iterate on their entries and come back stronger and more fully fleshed out in the coming rounds. My aim is not to discourage or heavy hand the SCF but rather to encourage the best of us and keep this fund on target.
If you have questions, comments or concerns please feel free to reach out to me tyvdh
on Keybase. For general suggestions or comments we also have a great form to collect feedback. I want this fund to reach its max potential and for that to happen we’ll need to all give each other a little grace, patience and understanding. We’re all in this together, learning, iterating and trying to make the most of the technology Stellar provides.
Onwards!
tyvdh Our live element was uploaded on AppStore and we are waiting for approval. As soon as we get the approval we can share the link. Meanwhile our project is using Stellar testnet.
nachoflores Amazing! I cannot wait to see it, really looking forward to playing with it next round, the video definitely looked very promising.
hatter Really excited about the potential here but without a live element you'll have to wait until a future round when you've got something the community can actively and accurately discuss and evaluate. Really hope you have something tangible for next round or sometime later this year as it looks like you've really put some thought and effort into this.
hatter I understand the frustration and I don't doubt you have something locked and loaded ready to blow us all away but unfortunately I'm unwilling to bend the rules here as it would be unfair to other entrants who have sufficiently live elements and were ready to go on time by the deadline. Remember too this is a quarterly fund so you won't have to wait long before you get a fresh shot at wowing us all in a much more tangible way.
tyvdh Thank you so much for the words. We are trying to solve a massive problem. Here in Mexico all kinds of Frauds are committed and we need to stop it.
Since we found Stellar and SALDO anchor we belive we can create a great tool.
We will work harder for next round but anyways we will deploy our solution in order to get traction and solve the fraud problems around people in Mexico.
Congratulations for this amazing community.
Saludos/Regards
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Ok now to the good parts:
No live element. Understandable, reason accepted, and only valid reason.
Important technical details aren’t outlined. Be very careful with this since it introduces subjectivity to the evaluation. And that exactly what the next phase of the contest is for, answering questions.
For technical projects the SCF should be viewed as a grant for completed work not for promised work, particularly if you’ve abandoned previous SCF entries. Now we're on shaky ground and the most dangerous of all. Abandoned projects are abandoned for so many reasons, starting with lack of traction, no monetization plan, no profits, no possibility to add human resources, chicken and egg problem, etc, but the most important of all is money, if there is no money there is no way to continue development specially for world changing projects that need tons of resources, human and capital.
So, take it as a suggestion for improvement. I'll start working on my entry for the next SCF and I hope I don't get disqualified or accused of abandoning projects.
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Torkus As you seem to be reasonable here I'm going to respond in kind as I think this discussion is worth having and may help guide further improvements and clarifications around the SCF.
Important technical details aren’t outlined.
I actually agree with you here, there is subjectivity in the evaluation, however it isn't a minor point particularly in areas which have been problem areas for entries in the past. Key storage and management is an area ripe for scams and mismanagement particularly when dealing with solo entrepreneurs. It's a trigger area for us and while I agree it can seem subjective we will require more details, demos and likely code available for review when submitting projects of this nature. Remember entries set patterns so while one entry may be fine due to underlying, unseen factors if that’s not obvious you set a pattern for bad actors to come in next round. You're absolutely right to think that there's a time for the community to pitch in but there's also a responsibility we have to guard the community from potentially dangerous or mismanaged projects. Your job is to prove the value and security and never assume your history or promises are enough. I've made that mistake before personally and been disqualified. It's unfortunate in the moment but in the long term I get it and support it as it puts me in the community's shoes not necessarily knowing me or my history nor having the time to deep dive mine and 30+ other projects. Assume nothing, prove the value and security every time.
For technical projects the SCF should be viewed as a grant for completed work not for promised work, particularly if you’ve abandoned previous SCF entries.
Again you are right that projects are abandoned for many reasons however there is a fundamental misunderstanding here of the purpose of the SCF in your statements. The SCF grant is primarily an opportunity for the community to partner with developers and content creators not the other way around. It's putting funds in the hands of the community at large to distribute to those projects and initiatives which they find value in. The assumption is that the projects which receive support don't immediately cease development, that the developers aren't in a mindset of money grabbing with another latest and greatest flashy new toy each round.
You've built a ton of stuff, like actually so many things, and that's amazing! So many of your projects seem that they could be great, could take off, but it would appear you're unable or unwilling to push them forward, and that's absolutely fine. If there's no business or no desire for you to pursue a business in them you have no requirement to do so. However that attitude and pattern isn't one the SCF is designed to support. The community is voting for your entry, your project, your event or service, not you. You are involved in your project and loyal developers are often our biggest winners in the SCF but if after winning, those projects the community voted for in hopes of delivered promises go nowhere and disappear we cannot continue to support that as a long term pattern. Money is a problem, business is hard, but that's not a problem unique to Stellar and in fact there are for-profit businesses running on Stellar right now without any involvement or payment from the SDF. There are also so many other means of fundraising out there, especially these days, I would strongly suggest projects looking for early stage or ongoing support default to looking outside the SDF for funding.
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So you don't want me to participate anymore? That's fine. Does Jed know about that? Because the SCF is not for funding projects, it is for growing the ecosystem, and that includes sharing ideas with fellow developers to further expand the reach of Stellar in the hands of more people and that's what I've been doing since I started working on Stellar, all my projects have been copied/extended/inspired by others and that's a good sign because that further increases awareness. I, personally, don't have CEO skills, my job is to program, to develop ideas that can be of high interest for the community, just like you when you brought to us GraphQL as an excellent idea but someone else took the prize from your hands by further developing your initial idea. How did that feel? Not good for you but very good for the ecosystem, people got inspired and they finished something of utmost importance for all. My Swift SDK inspired others and someone won the prize and even inspired a Kotlin SDK for Android, my PayWithStellar tool inspired others that adapted it to wordpress and shopify, my StarBoard project was copied line by line (now modified) to build the very own Stellar Network analisys tool, no credits required since I gain satisfaction from my projects inspiring others. When I started Galtex, I was the first to offer crypto, forex, stocks, commodities, all in one exchange, a world changing idea that had to be shut down or face jail time.
So yes, I know everybody here piles up against my submissions because I've won many times and I haven't continued development on any of them, some trolls even called me "milking the community". Now take for example Paysapp, a billion dollar idea that needs MILLIONS of dollars to comply with all the laws and regulations, that can be a total pain to implement due to all the hurdles that messaging platforms require in order to meet their terms of services or get banned. Do you think ten thousand dollars would be enough to lift that project up? There are only two options, one, comply and raise millions, and two, go underground and shut off whatsapp, twitter, and all messaging platforms reducing the posibility for virality and multi-app communication losing its appeal.
No, this field is not easy, it is a minefield full of booby traps, a thousand projects will fail and only a handful will survive, even Facebook with their Libra project understands all the risks and legal/political mountains they must climb but at least they have the resources, and you can not expect all thousand dead-end projects built on Stellar to continue development without proven monetization plans or even law compliance. Does that disqualify me? Then let me know not to waste my time or yours anymore.
And remember, Stellar has money allocated for development, that money should be used to expand the ecosystem no matter what, and that's what I've been doing since day one, my day one in November 2017 once I learned about this awesome project, not awesome anymore I guess. And no, I don't want special treatment, I took my disqualification with pride and will work hard for the next SCF only if you all stop looking at us developers as "community milkers" and change your attitude against us. There are tons of scammers and shitty projects on every round even in this one, so open your eyes and learn to differentiate those who PROVIDE VALUE from those who don't.
Thanks for the good times. A great learning experience.
Caterina Sorry to report your submission was disqualified. See the post above for the explanation
tyvdh April 20th – Nominations open
What will you use for nominations?
ddombrowsky our voting app we’ve used for the last few rounds https://stellarcommunity.fund